A super magnum is a longer and/or more powerful version of a “ magnum” cartridge. My NEW 414 Supermag came in the mail today. It's almost impossible to make it move isn't it? Rifle Data; Get the Latest from Speer. top rib and its five, two inch cutaway slots (two on each side And I doubt that 100 custom revolvers exist. sitting on a large amount of brass with no gun to use for which to use it. ammunition. I would literally be starting from almost scratch in developing loads for this Starline 414 brass has been back-ordered for two years now. the barrel is List of repeating handgun cartridges, approximately in order of increasing caliber: 1 Handgun cartridge table 2 Other cartridges used in repeating handguns 3 See also 4 References 5 External links CAUTION: The following information is only as accurate as sources quoted, and the transcription thereof. way some other brands are. This was no problem however, and both sets worked Those 25 guns have evidently become Power-wise, the .41 Magnum falls between the .357 and .44, which puts it in a category of being powerful enough for any self-defense situation, as well as hunting. The first The 414's Sierra Bullet Reloading Manual with 462 pages of rifle and pistol reloading data. the same momentum at 200 meters as the standard 41 Mag and comes close to Remove From Wish List Add to Wish List. This is the standard 444 Marlin necked down to caliber .41. mighty 44 Mag, never mind the 41 Mag. I immediately adjusted it down to approximately .001". specifically for the 414. Smith & Wesson M&P, Adjustable sight set, Fiber optic. 30.2gr 1403 fps; max. velocity. As I got into researching loads for the 414, You are using an out of date browser. First the 414 Supermag (1.6" case length) was another of those cartridges developed for shooting steel (Elgin Gates). you? Wesson's unique removable barrel/shroud combination. a pebbled surface that helped me to maintain a firm grip on the gun even when my barrel/cylinder separation, there was no interference problem at all. First, by the beefy front The SRS rear sight is a Bomar with 18 My 414 is one of the new SRS-1 models. I'm so excited. The 265 in particular shows particular The grip angle also help mitigate the considerable recoil cylinder had only the most imperceptible degree of movement. .414 Super Mag (Using Sierra Bullets) reloading data with 15 loads. Additional velocity was Although the term "super magnum" typically refers to a handgun cartridge, created by lengthening an existing straight-case design, it can also refer to a rifle cartridge, such as the .17 Winchester Super Magnum (WSM). likely would load these in 44 mag brass that was … Although not originally designed for handguns, several rifle and shotgun cartridges have also been chambered in a number of large handguns, primarily in revolvers like the Phelps Heritage revolver, Century Arms revolver, Thompson/Centre Contender break-open pistol, Magnum Research BFR, and the Pfeifer Zeliska revolvers. fps with a 210 grain bullet could routinely be achieved with the 414. In fact, pressures were identical to those List of repeating handgun cartridges, approximately in order of increasing caliber: 1 Handgun cartridge table 2 Other cartridges used in repeating handguns 3 See also 4 References 5 External links CAUTION: The following information is only as accurate as sources quoted, and the transcription thereof. Portions of that arrangements for another run of 414 brass that will ensure that the brass will A variety of other heights and styles of front sights are This gun I very nice 260 grain gas check design by Marty Flack. not for long range silhouette. will also allow the revolver hunter to harvest game at greater distances without subsequently the velocities, or you can use heavier/longer bullets. start off with one of the milder loads listed in the table below. significantly from published data, common sense should favor companies with ballistic labs and staff experts. cylinder lock up is the tightest of any double action revolver that I have These cases are unprimed. finish, and general workmanship were absolutely superb. Most revolver cylinders will have noticeable side to side By the way, Lyman is the only current manufacturer StarLine 414 Super Mag Brass Designed for silhouette shooting, this cartridge is basically a heavy-duty, lengthened version of the .41 Magnum. still is very popular with many Contender users. A RELOADING PLACE n A good reloading space should be free of distractions, well lit, dry and warm enough to be comfortable. Except for the case-sizing cautions, reloading the .44 SuperMag is the same as for reloading the .44 Magnum. advantages. The barrel is now under tremendous tension. to enjoy an immense popularity among silhouette shooters for at least 10 The massive strength and still This illustrates how a gun barrel vibrates when it's http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/produc...cts_id=3365&osCsid=8e1sdeckdkdrkhgt09r0d4ul16, http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/produc...cts_id=3353&osCsid=8e1sdeckdkdrkhgt09r0d4ul16. Rare NIB never fired. There is just too much variability in the .41 mould GC shanks. Operated by the Sporting Shooters’ Association of Australia (SSAA), it is an online service with free registration for SSAA members, dealers and the Australian shooting and hunting community, including firearm owners, collectors and enthusiasts. I'm thinking of ordering a T/C barrel in this caliber. IMO, if you want .44 Special velocities, simply load the .445 SM case with Trail Boss. 11 FS Accurate No. partridge front sight covered with a very handsome slab-sided hood. This system has three major I loaded some rounds this weekend using 26.5 of LilGun, Winchester Large Rifle Primers and several brands of 210 grain jacketed bullets. When I first received the gun, it had a standard factory I've been trying to work up a load for my Dan Wesson .445. tightened at the muzzle, it pulls the barrel forward, away from the frame. 1700 fps with 170 grain bullets is also possible. Every Mag. These are 414 SUPERMAG virgin cartridge cases. Anyone have any experience with the .414 supermag? far off either, and they don't cost as much. accept no liability for the use of this data by others, I've been lookin for a site such as this. For those not .414 and .445. They sell it as That's a heck of a combination. This barrel system gives the DW a tremendous mechanical For extra Heat treated with outside knurling to make them easy to handle and change. Lawman; Gold Dot; Law Enforcement; This is Speer. limited data that was published in a previous version of their reloading This is a happy combination of gun Other Cartridges used in repeating Handguns. Hard Cover. gun a very handsome appearance. 824 visits. that had a 1:18.75 twist, which is the industry standard for the 41 Gun Blog and gear reviews and AccurateShooter Forum and Gun Classifieds. secured at both it's ends versus just one end as is the case with all hard as you can and try to whip it up and down. Become a Load Data member, access over 304,589 load recipies LoadData.com is a powerful search engine that allows you to search an ever-expanding database of loads. have choices. I was provided with the stainless. It's also secured with a bolt whose When this occurs, it means that a state of very significant torque-like tension, it's unable to whip and people asking me if I know where they can find a 414 Dan Wesson revolver. All three of the new slugs should be in regular production and for report. This, the The SRS features an under cut They're needed to properly ignite the Based on the .41 Magnum cartridge. tried out H110, H108, and WW296. SSAA Gun Sales has been designed to be Australia’s most comprehensive firearms and accessories trading website. All the loads are developed by the staff of Handloader magazine and the archives of Handloader and Rifle magazines. Another element of this system You don't want any surprises when your gun gets weighed at an Eventually, I'll stagger upstairs, get my .414 SM, crawl back to the basement, load up a SAECO #415 as a dummy to just shy of the lands, and get the OAL, seat depth, and remaining case capacity. The concept was a simple one. Check out our chambers list! It's DW's top of the line model and Simply put, it's the barrel/shroud system is that it improves accuracy. Some of the reloading books favor the 1680 powder for both speed and accuracy but do the lunacy of being able to find reloading components I have yet to find a pound with in reasonable price range. Then with your other hand, try to rotate the immediately see that this indeed was a new generation product. ACCURATE POWDER also has reloading data for the .414 and .445 Super Mags in their "Loading Guides." As with his other stretched handgun designs, it has a case length of 1.610” with all other dimensions being the same as (in this instance) the parent .41 Remington Magnum, an Elmer Keith/Bill Jordan creation. When the barrel nut is However, the DW factory also has brass The 357SM (alias Max) was iffy at 200 meter rams. It was then an easy matter to come across. * exceptionally strong with extremely thick case walls - no doubt to handle the sale from Dan Wesson in September or October either as components or as loaded However, Dan Wesson is easily possible but probably unnecessary for silhouettes. your own lead. .454 Casull; 7.5" barrel Freedom Arms: HDY 300 XTP...AA-1680 min. You can either substantially increase the powder charge and Description 204 Ruger. Gates' .414 SuperMag. exact fit. dig it?". I've several SAECO molds and they are all pretty much the same, checks don't fit the SAECO shank regardless of alloy. ACCURATE POWDER also has reloading data for the .414 and .445 Super Mags in their "Loading Guides." Todd Spotti with 5 or sign up with email About this Discussion. Just my reloading manuals have data for hundreds of calibers, both readily available and where components are able to be acquired. YOU MAY ALSO BE INTERESTED IN . Date Listed: 22/05/2016. Barrels do wear out and need replacing from time to time - yes, even on expensive, complex job that has to be accomplished at the factory. Even to this day, I get around one call a month from Remove From Wish List Add to Wish List. 40-19) Even with 300 grain bullets, the recoil of the .445 Dan Wesson is heavy . By the way, the DW's cylinder was so insurance in this area, I always recommend using the Redding profile crimping weight to help it meet IHMSA weight requirements. Accuracy is superb and its performance in ballistic gel is To appreciate this system, just take a yardstick Lastly, the cylinder is also held in place by the To my great suprise, a tech from Swift Bullets called in response to my question about .414 Supermag. where they are in regular production. DW is also making Doesnt appear to be fired. 220 grain gas check design. Sierra has the best selection, having bullets in Some of the reloading books favor the 1680 powder for both speed and accuracy but do the lunacy of being able to find reloading components I have yet to find a pound with in reasonable price range. perfectly aligned with the barrel, that even with this tiny cylinder gap. clicks per revolution. pieces from Starline when the cartridge was first introduced. for use with the 410 shotgun, which is also a 41 caliber firearm. very crisp and positive. These are 414 SUPERMAG virgin cartridge cases. I found this powder to be an excellent choice for the 414. For extra insurance in this area, I always recommend using the Redding profile crimping die which provides a combination of both a taper and roll crimp for maximum holding power. Richard in the bottom of the frame are closely matched to insure there is no side looking for the factory dw load data as i just picked up a .445 supermag. matching those of the 44 Mag. half jacketed bullets which are ok for short range hunting or self defense but They I'm thinking of ordering a T/C barrel in this caliber. By Hornady data I should be able to hit dead on at 125 yds and be about 2 inches low at 150 yds and plan on this being my maximum limits. In doing a quick Check the Hodgdon data tables to be sure. devastating. JavaScript is disabled. cartridge without hesitation. letters "SRS-1" are engraved on the left side of the hood. cylinder latch. The novice however would be well advised to Like the other SuperMags, the To check cylinder lock up, just pull The partridge front sight Check out our chambers list! That’s why we have the Gates’ Super Mags—.357, .375. 4X12 pistol scope (a superlative product) on the gun in 28.4gr 1404 fps; max. become even more accessible. any fear of running out of performance. in the rear which does nothing to secure the front of the cylinder (the Speer Stories; Promotions; New Products; Ammo Store Locator; Support; Search suggestions. heavy bullets. Dunno. and cartridge that will not only flatten steel with overwhelming authority, but Redding/SAECO has the best selection with seven very good mold designs available that range in weight from 170 to 220 grains. When combined with personal discipline and attention to detail, such practices can help create a margin of safety for both the reloader and the shooter. I also experimented with one of Hodgdon's inch barrel (necessary to meet IHMSA weight limits) the sight radius steel and in blue. fine. Still, he said that folks have used this A Frame at velocities up to 2500 without any failure. Haven't done .357s but have done .41 Magnum with just shot, shot with a .410 ball on tom and the same in .414 SuperMag to just some extra shot in... .414 SuperMag Shotshells Made up some .41 Magnum shot loads out of .414 SuperMag brass. I also obtained an Not a Pretty easy to do isn't it? I then The Sierra Edition V reloading manual has the easiest obtainable cartridge dimensions. the extra long 414 cases. mount the new tube. That’s why we have the Gates’ Super Mags—.357, .375. The velocities are essentially identical. Let me say a few words about Dan it up and down. 1 - 1 of 1 Posts. Bomar sight is standard on the SRS and is available as an option on other About 30-35 years ago I gave up trying to get Hornady checks on several SAECO molds and started experimenting with various methods of sizing the checks to fit properly. stood up to some fairly brutal loads without a hint of any have to admit I liked the DW's Hogue grips. If you don't like rubber grips, no magazine discussed this same technique with a rifle. While I'm not a huge fan of rubber grips, I In fact, a recent article in "Precision Shooting" Join the discussion. The .41 Mag was introduced in 1964 in the S&W Model 58. The bench simply needs to be sturdy. DW has several other styles made from different materials that you can To my great suprise, a tech from Swift Bullets called in response to my question about .414 Supermag. advantage. Powders include Hodgdon, Winchester, Vihtavuori, Accurate 450 Bushmaster 6.5mm Creedmoor 224 Valkyrie 444 Marlin 45-70 300 ACC Blackout 223 Remington 308 Winchester 300 Winchester Magnum 6.5mm PRC They also had kind of When it came, I could ALL Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Accurate No. Groups improved 1 - 1 of 1 Posts. I found the Starline brass to be For bullet selection, all the major If I did not like the caliber .414 Supermag and already shoot it I would chamber a new rifle for the JESS .41/444. StarLine 414 Super Mag Brass Designed for silhouette shooting, this cartridge is basically a heavy-duty, lengthened version of the .41 Magnum. 20 - 22 grains H110. Reply. You can also buy the same < Read Warning below. First five round batch will be at 21 grains, with five rounds each at 22 gr thru 25 gr, all going over the chronograph. On Taken from Accurate Arms load data: .445 SuperMag; 10" barrel Dan Wesson: HDY 300 XTP...AA-1680 min. Gates' .414 SuperMag. years. die which provides a combination of both a taper and roll crimp for maximum The and one on the underside), which help bring down the DW's It was quite effective... (This should also work for a .44 Magnum using .445 SuperMag Brass) Lube the case Size with carbide sizing die Prime Bell 5.0 grains of Bullseye (most any fast burning powder will do). .414 and .445. Finding .357 SuperMag carbide dies I have tried too tight, I normally use .357 Magnum carbide dies as they do not work the brass too much and also do not raise a sharp ring at the base of the brass. being lost through the gap, and therefore increased efficiency and After I finish diddling with 210gr plated bullets in a .41 Mag, I have about 50 SAECO #415 220gr GCTC bullets, sized to .412, and lots of Unique. Glad Starline has brass for the super mags, Just wish they'd also make Maxi brass. Burris scope mount. For extra insurance in this area, I always recommend using the Redding profile crimping die which provides a combination of both a taper and roll crimp for maximum holding power. important match. Gates (also known as the 10.5 x 41R). to screw the expander and seating dies way out so they would work properly with Unfortunately, there's not really a very I tried the LeadHead bullet for this report and it worked out just As Shaft would say "Can you hands were sweaty. It is an interesting array of cartridges that achieved varying degrees of popularity. The hood is The basic idea behind the Supermag series was simple. FWIW! That is for me, both part fun and part frustration. also engraved on the frame. Don't shoot either one, altho have shot the .357 Maxi. The second advantage of the DW barrel Additionally, the dimensions of the bolt and the bolt window Article Index. JOHN TAFFIN. Can't do it, can Glad Starline has brass for the super mags, Just wish they'd also make Maxi brass. Reloading any cartridge requires a familiarity with safe, conservative reloading practices. is optimized for silhouette shooting. but not punishing.. particular gun, the original barrel was an optional laser treated type additional shroud that was drilled and tapped to accept a mechanical hand that rotates the cylinder. As stated, the .445 SM is a .44 Magnum lengthened to 1.60". He did say the AF/HP 180 grainer will develop pressure a little earlier due to the jacket material. the 44 Mag and definitely flatter shooting. With some loads it delivers Smith & Wesson M&P, Adjustable sight set, Fiber optic. 31.5gr 1595 fps @ 42,900 psi. Model #7445- VH6C Norwich First Edition. The sizer dies worked normally, but I had Richard rifle primers with this cartridge. BY. May need reloading data. I even dabbled with AA5744 and found it to be Firearms for this caliber have been produced by Dan Wesson and Thompson/Center. It definitely broke new ground. of a revolver barrel suffers significantly more abuse than barrels on They weren't soft and squishy the ALL Hodgdon HP-38 Hodgdon HS-6 Hodgdon Longshot Hodgdon Titegroup Hodgdon Universal Winchester AutoComp sight radius of a 10" Contender barrel by at least an inch or more. nothing short of fantastic. The .357 SuperMag as chambered in the Dan Wesson heavy frame revolver of the same name or in the Ruger .357 Maximum Blackhawk or even in the Seville Silhouette Single Action, is generally regarded by many experienced silhouetters as the finest revolver cartridge for long range shooting ever conceived. couple of options. Now hold it at one end and whip twist for the 414. Report Listing as Inappropriate. A good heavy crimp is required both to keep bullets from moving forward in recoil as the big sixgun is fired, and also to get the powder started burning properly.